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Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:16:00 -
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You're a good guy, man. |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:29:00 -
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Holy mother of god there are people in here who seriously think Mittani's a sociopath in real life and this is all some ~puppetmasta~ ploy. :cripes: |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:47:00 -
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I'd hate to see you resign, Mittani. You've done a bang-up job in the role of helping the CSM and CCP make EVE a better game, and I'd love to see another year of that. |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:43:00 -
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Every single person in this thread asking for Mittani to step down because they've shamed them and he's not their representative anymore should probably also mention who actually got their votes during the voting period. Because he got 2 from me and I sure don't want to see him resign as either Chairman or a CSM member. |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:57:00 -
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Darius III wrote:He said he would step down, probably just as chairman, which isnt enough to make it right. People in power never resign except for religious officials caught in sex scandals. He will cling to power in any form. Th eapology is not IMO sincere in the slightest, look at what he wrote immediately following the first post. This is damage control, nothing more.
He knows that resigning completely from CSM7 is the right move, but he will not. We will see how CCP responds to this soon I think. He made this presentation in advance, I know this guy, trust me he bullies people if he thinks he can get away with it. I know first hand, having seen it myself in CSM. He excluded me from Skype shat before I ever even made an introduction post. This is how he is, and the real Mittani is the one on stage not the one apologizing in the OP.
~1282~
Darius shut the **** up because you are infinitely more the hypocritical piece of **** power grabbing politician than Mittens is~ |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:03:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:You goons don't really get that this isn't about the game EvE.
Its about real people.
And real world ramifications.
Its not just about the mittani and whom he tried to lynch mob. Its about anyone else that comes after. Whom might actually be pushed to far.
Mittens went to far and needs to back off and step away from the CSM.
He won, but he then shot his own foot off. He bears the responsibility for his actions.
He sounded like he was on the right path and was going to be a man about it. Now it seems he is backpedaling off of stepping down like he should. At this junction its bad PR for him to be on the CSM for all of EvE at a critical junction for CCP with dust coming out.
His actions ruined what seemed to be a good fanfest as well.
So what, nobody should ever gank anyone ever again? Nobody should shoot freighters off the Jita undock, or go tackle some miners in a belt and blow them up because they might go abloo bloo and kill themselves? No, that's bullcrap. One badly thought out and errant comment does not a resignation make, especially when the person has apologized and paid reparations to the party targeted by that comment.
Also, I didn't see any particular outbursts over the panel until Fanfest was more or less over. Just a few threads going 'wow what a bad alliance presentation. |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:25:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:And as you are seeing from the responses of genuine independent eve players in this thread - its simply not acceptable.
And you're completely ignoring every single independent eve player who's saying they support him and his apology. But that's no real surprise. |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:46:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:You goons really aren't saying anything apart from "la la la I'm not listening la la la" (and putting your hands over your ears while reading out prepared memes somebody else made earlier.)
Not really, there's not any prepared statements we're getting from CFC upper crust about this or whatever. I personally would get pretty pissed off of the two votes I threw towards Mittani ended up being worthless due to a kneejerk reaction to a drunken comment that he's apologized for getting him removed from the CSM, no matter how the removal happened. Chalk it up to me being a horrible awful goonie gewn goon goon if you want, but I'd hate to see someone who's got a proven history of being able to help make changes that I consider positive happen to a game I care about forced out because of a single moment of bad judgement. Everyone makes mistakes, after all. |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:54:00 -
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Headerman wrote:Everyone, in one way or another, pays for their mistakes as well.
And he has. He's issued a public apology to Wis, he's given him more than 10 billion isk, and he's expressed regret that he made a complete ass of himself on live TV. He's said he'll be talking to the CSM and CCP about this, and they'll reach a decision together. That seems like plenty of payment for his mistake, and instead of screaming about how he should be impeached and removed and expelled and banned from the game maybe everyone should just, you know, let the CSM and CCP work it out. |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:07:00 -
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Headerman wrote:An apology that took 5 minutes to type down and post on the internet?
10 billion isk from the alliance fund of how much?
An apology on live tv?
It is a start.
But what happens next time?
CFC Alliance funds are some of the most transparent out there, and if he siphons 10b to refill his coffers you can damn well bet some sperglord'll point it out. That post clearly had way more than 5 minutes spent on it, given he was immediately twittering the moment his plane hit he ground about how he felt like ****. Maybe if CCP feels it's needed the'll have him give a presentation on how sorry he is via EVE TV.
Maybe if he makes a drunken ******* of himself on EVE TV again in the future, then he gets banned, kicked, removed from the CSM. But not for a single mistake like this. |
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Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:06:00 -
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de4deye wrote:The reality is that a person's life matters much more than this game, no matter how much goon trolls want to try to cover up these posts. This is not a 12 step program, it doesn't matter that mittens was drunk - it is no good excuse to make fun of a suicidal person. Mittani knew what he did was wrong, which is why he is trying to cover his tracks with a quick and simplistic "I was drunk, wasn't my fault, I'm a victim too" excuse.
Except he said his drunkenness is no excuse for how he acted in the ******* apology. It'd be awesome if any of you people bothered to read his post instead of immediately coming in to crucify a guy who's genuinely sorry about ******* up. |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:20:00 -
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Dalketh wrote:Correct - his drunkenness is no excuse. We read the post and agree. It is no excuse. None. Agreeing with you dude. It was no excuse at all and he admits it. So that some 'get out of jail free card'? Explain that non-logic?
No, it's not a get out of jail free card.
However, the fact that he has publically apologized for being a shitheel, gave the dude who we blew up and who he went 'Hey go harass this guy heh' 10.7 billion isk, everything he had in his personal wallet, and now will discuss what should happen with the CSM and CCP IS.
Wis is fine and more or less stumbled into 10.7 billion isk out of the blue today. Maybe if Wis had actually killed himself, or made some sort of attempt on his life, then all this damn indignation and moral superiority would be proper, but nobody came out of this worse for the wear. Mittani learned a lesson about how maybe he shouldn't get drunk off his **** on a live broadcast, that he should choose his words carefully, and now CCP and his peers in the CSM can decide what happens from this point. Everyone screaming and hollering that he NEEDS to step down and how he's a shame and disgusting and whatnot are showing their own immaturity for not being able to forgive a man who's admitted he did wrong and made amends for it, especially in a case like this where nobody's gotten harmed. |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:29:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:This is too reasonable for me. You need to call someone a pubbie shitheel or we're revoking your Griefer A1 status that allows you to buy off pubbies from the 10billion isk So Sorry wallet.
OH NO IS THIS AN OPEN FORUM?
I know I'm a horrible goon, I keep careposting on EVEO :smithicide: |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.28 11:37:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Do you believe he can continue as Chairman of the CSM and represent the game of eve online in the media and press given the current storm around cyber-bullying in a climate where the industry has already had to deal with the fallout from the Aris Bakhtanians "fighting game" issue?
Yes, I do, because I believe anyone who would seriously and honestly care and feel bad about something like cyber-bullying in EVE Online would have already been turned off of it by the rather hands off approach CCP takes to things like griefing, scamming, and other not so nice-guy things that make EVE what it is. On top of that, given the news media's tendency to pick up hot button issues and stories then drop them for whatever the next hot button story or issue is means this will have virtually no long-term effects on the 'industry' or EVE online, at least profitability wise. |

Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.30 10:54:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-lee-settlement-20120329,0,7063902.story
But how was spike lee supposed to know people would take his twitter seriously. It was on just a twitter post. Why would people have to flee their home in fear over that.
Notice how Spike lee got sued and had to face the music for his irresponsible actions that put people at risk.
Just some food for thought.
Yeah, he apologized to the family, and compensated them for the troubles he caused them with a monetary settlement, and they forgave him for making an ass of himself and all in all it ended pretty calmly and without incident. Seems familiar, at least up until the whole 'forgiveness, ended calmly' part. |
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